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2008 KTM SX450F possible trade for 250 (0)
08' KTM SX450F with terrific tires, new sprocket/chain, electric starter, around 20-25 hours on the bike total, oil changed every five hours with synthetic oil, air filter cleaned often, mechanically solid bike. I am a beginner 35 yr old rider and set this bike up for trail riding. I ran it on a couple of vet C class hare scrambles but to my knowledge has never been raced motorcross.2014-01-22 02:33:21Sioux City, IA03,200.00
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2011 KTM 350 SXF (2011)
Engine Type:Single cylinder, four-strokeBore and Stroke:88.0 x 57.5 mmCompression Ratio:13.5:1Carburetion:Carburettor. Keihin EFI, throttle body 42 mmIgnition:ElectricFuel Type:GasolineFuel Capacity:1.98 gallons2013-12-21 22:15:14Sioux City, IA06,499.00
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2011 KTM 250 SXF (2011)
Engine Type:Single cylinder, four-strokeBore and Stroke:76.0 x 54.8 mmCompression Ratio:13.2:1Carburetion:Carburettor. Keihin EFI, throttle body 42 mmIgnition:ElectronicFuel Type:GasolineFuel Capacity:1.98 gallons2013-12-20 23:25:05Sioux City, IA05,499.00
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2012 KTM 250 XCF (2012)
Engine Type:Single cylinder, four-strokeBore and Stroke:76.0 x 54.8 mmCompression Ratio:13.2:1Carburetion:InjectionIgnition:Contactless, controlled, fully electronic ignition system with digital ignition timing adjustment, type KokusanFuel Type:GasolineFuel Capacity:1.98 gallons2013-12-20 23:22:08Sioux City, IA06,999.00
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2013 KTM 250XCF-W (2013)
Engine Type:1-cylinder 4-stroke engineBore and Stroke:76 mm x 54.80 mmCarburetion:Fuel InjectedIgnition:Electric starter/kickstarterFuel Type:Gasoline2013-12-20 23:08:38Sioux City, IA07,499.00
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2013 KTM 450XC-W (2013)
Engine Type:1-cylinder 4-stroke engineBore and Stroke:95 mm x 63.4 mmCarburetion:Keihin Fuel InjectionIgnition:Electric starter/kick starterFuel Type:GasolineFuel Capacity:2.25 gal.2013-12-20 23:01:29Sioux City, IA09,499.00
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2013 KTM 350 XCF-W (2013)
Engine Type:Single cylinder, four-strokeBore and Stroke:88.0 x 57.5 mmCompression Ratio:13.2:1Carburetion:InjectionIgnition:Contactless controlled fully electronic ignition with digital ignition adjustmentFuel Type:GasolineFuel Capacity:2.25 gallons2013-12-20 22:39:49Sioux City, IA09,199.00
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2009 KTM 450 XC-F (2009)
ngine Type:Single cylinder, 4-strokeBore and Stroke:97 x 60.8 mmCompression Ratio:12.5:1Carburetion:Keihin MX FCR 39 CarburatorIgnition:ElectricFuel Type:GasolineFuel Capacity:2.38 gal2013-12-19 23:28:00Sioux City, IA04,999.00
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2007 KTM 300XC (2007)
Engine Type:Single-CylinderBore and Stroke:72 x 72mmCarburetion:Keihin PWK 36mm S AGIgnition:Kick StartFuel Type:GasolineFuel Capacity:3.5+2013-12-18 23:42:29Sioux City, IA9993,900.00
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2011 KTM 250 SX-F (2011)
Engine Type:Single cylinder, 4-strokeBore and Stroke:76 MM x 54.8 mmCarburetion:Fuel InjectionFuel Type:GasolineFuel Capacity:1.98 gal.2013-12-18 23:28:57Sioux City, IA05,999.00
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2012 KTM 150XC (2012)
Engine Type:Single cylinder, two-strokeBore and Stroke:56.0 x 58.4 mmCarburetion:CarburettorIgnition:KickFuel Type:GasolineFuel Capacity:3.04 gallons2013-12-18 22:16:55Sioux City, IA06,999.00
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2011 KTM 350 SX-F (2011)
Engine Type:Single cylinder, four-strokeBore and Stroke:88.0 x 57.5 mmCompression Ratio:13.5:1Ignition:Electric startFuel Type:GasolineFuel Capacity:1.98 gallons2013-12-17 22:53:34Sioux City, IA06,199.00
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2012 KTM 500 XCW (2012)
Engine Type:Single cylinder, four-strokeBore and Stroke:95.0 x 72.0 mmCompression Ratio:13.2:1Carburetion:Injection. EFIIgnition:Contactless controlled fully electronic ignition with digital ignition adjustment, type KokusanFuel Type:GasolineFuel Capacity:2.25 gallons2013-12-16 22:18:09Sioux City, IA08,299.00
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2013 KTM 450SX-F (2013)
Engine Type:1-cylinder 4-stroke engineBore and Stroke:95 mm x 63.4 mmCompression Ratio:14:50Carburetion:Contactless controlled fully electronic ignition with digital ignition adjustmentIgnition:Electric starter Push ButtonFuel Type:GasolineFuel Capacity:1.98 gal.2013-12-14 23:14:09Sioux City, IA07,999.00
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2013 KTM 50 SX (2013)
Engine Type:2-strokeBore and Stroke:39.5 mm x 40 mmCompression Ratio:11:40Ignition:KickstarterFuel Type:GasolineFuel Capacity:0.60 gal.2013-12-14 22:16:35Sioux City, IA9992,899.00
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2014 KTM 250 SXF (2014)
Engine Type:1-cylinder 4-stroke engine, water-cooledBore and Stroke:78mmX52.3Ignition:Electric starterFuel Type:GasolineFuel Capacity:7.5 l (1.98 US gal)2013-12-14 22:07:52Sioux City, IA07,999.00
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2014 KTM 50 SX (2014)
Engine Type:1-cylinder 2-stroke engine, water-cooled, with reed intakeBore and Stroke:39.5mmX40mmIgnition:KickstarterFuel Type:GasolineFuel Capacity:2.3 l (2.4 qt.)2013-12-13 22:16:21Sioux City, IA03,849.00
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2014 KTM 65 SX (2014)
Engine Type:1-cylinder 2-stroke engine, water-cooled, with reed intake and exhaust controlBore and Stroke:45mmX40.8mmIgnition:KickstarterFuel Type:GasolineFuel Capacity:3.5 l (3.7 qt.)2013-12-13 22:01:56Sioux City, IA0Call for Price
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2012 KTM 300 XC (2012)
Engine Type:Single cylinder, two-strokeBore and Stroke:72.0 x 72.0 mmFuel Type:GasolineFuel Capacity:1.98 gallons2013-12-12 23:16:36Sioux City, IA07,699.00
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2014 KTM 150 SX 150 (2014)
Engine Type:1-cylinder 2-stroke engine, water-cooled, with reed intake and exhaust controlBore and Stroke:56MMx58.4MMIgnition:Contactless controlled fully electronic ignition with digital ignition adjustment, type KokusanFuel Type:GasolineFuel Capacity:1.98 Gal.2013-12-12 22:09:04Sioux City, IA0Call for Price
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2013 KTM 990 Adventure Baja (2013)
Engine Type:2-cylinder, 4-stroke, 75?? V-Twin arrangement, liquid-cooledBore and Stroke:101mm x 62.4mmIgnition:Electric starterFuel Type:Gasoline2013-12-11 23:29:07Sioux City, IA013,999.00
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2014 KTM 250 SX (2014)
Engine Type:1-cylinder 2-stroke engine, water-cooled, with reed intake and exhaust controlBore and Stroke:66.4X72mmIgnition:Kick StarterFuel Type:Gasoline2013-12-11 23:21:06Sioux City, IA06,699.00
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2013 KTM 990 SM T (2013)
Engine Type:2-cylinder 4-stroke Otto motor, 75?? V arrangement, water-cooledBore and Stroke:101 mm x 62.4 mmCarburetion:InjectionIgnition:Contactless controlled fully electronic ignition with digital ignition adjustment2013-12-11 22:34:26Sioux City, IA012,999.00
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2014 KTM 350 SX-F (2014)
Engine Type:Single cylinder 4 stroke engine, water cooledBore and Stroke:88mmX57.5mmCarburetion:Fuel InjectionIgnition:ElectricFuel Type:GasolineFuel Capacity:1.98 gal2013-12-11 22:18:48Sioux City, IA08,749.00
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2013 KTM Duke 690 (2013)
Engine Type:Single-cylinder, 4-stroke, spark-ignition engine, liquid-cooledBore and Stroke:102mmX84.5mmCarburetion:Fuel InjectionIgnition:Electric starter, automatic decompressorFuel Type:GasolineFuel Capacity:14L2013-12-11 22:09:14Sioux City, IA08,499.00
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2013 KTM RC8-R (2013)
Engine Type:V-twinBore and Stroke:105 mm x 69 mmCarburetion:InjectedIgnition:Contactless, controlled, fully electronic ignition system with digital ignition timing adjustmentFuel Type:GasolineFuel Capacity:16.5 l2013-12-10 23:23:14Sioux City, IA015,499.00
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2013 KTM 990 Adventure Baja Dual Sport (2013)
2013 KTM 990 Adventure Baja, Engine Type:2-cylinder, 4-stroke, 75A? V-Twin arrangement, liquid-cooledBore and Stroke:101mm x 62.4mmIgnition:Electric starterFuel Type:Gasoline2013-10-18 07:35:03Sioux City, IA, US014,899.00
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2012 KTM 300 XC 300W Mx (2012)
2012 Ktm 300 XC, 2012 KTM 300 XCLocation:Bak BMW Victory KTM KymcoAvailability:AvailableVIN:VBKMXN239M310063Condition:NewColor:OrangePrice:$8,0992013-10-19 03:41:20Sioux City, IA, US07,699.00
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2014 KTM 50 SX Mx (2014)
Engine Type:2-strokeBore and Stroke:39.5 mm x 40 mmCompression Ratio:11:40Ignition:KickstarterFuel Type:GasolineFuel Capacity:0.60 gal.2013-10-20 02:47:14Sioux City, IA, US02,899.00
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2013 KTM RC8-R Sportbike (2013)
2013 KTM RC8-R, Engine Type:V-twinBore and Stroke:105 mm x 69 mmCarburetion:InjectedIgnition:Contactless, controlled, fully electronic ignition system with digital ignition timing adjustmentFuel Type:GasolineFuel Capacity:16.5 l2013-10-16 09:00:37Sioux City, IA, US016,499.00
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2011 KTM 250 SXF 250 Dirt Bike (2011)
2011 Ktm 250 SXF, 2011 KTM 250 SXF2013-10-04 23:32:37Sioux City, IA, US05,499.00
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2014 KTM 250 SXF Mx (2014)
2014 KTM 250 SXF, Engine Type:1-cylinder 4-stroke engine, water-cooledBore and Stroke:78mmX52.3Ignition:Electric starterFuel Type:GasolineFuel Capacity:7.5 l (1.98 US gal)2013-10-04 19:13:39Sioux City, IA, US07,999.00
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2012 KTM 250 XCF 250 Dirt Bike (2012)
2012 Ktm 250 XCF, 2012 KTM 250 XCF2013-10-03 20:09:13Sioux City, IA, US08,299.00
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2012 KTM 150XC 150 (2012)
2012 Ktm 150XC, 2012 KTM 150XCLocation:Bak BMW Victory KTM KymcoAvailability:AvailableCondition:NewColor:ORANGEPrice:$6,999Salesperson:Bak SalesEmail Address:Email SalespersonPhone Number:(712) 258-79002013-10-02 19:40:36Sioux City, IA, US06,999.00
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2012 KTM 500 XCW Dirt Bike (2012)
2012 Ktm 500 XCW, Location:Bak BMW Victory KTM KymcoAvailability:AvailableStock Number:NKM482265VIN:VBKEXN404CM482265Condition:NewColor:ORANGEUsage:9399Price:Call for Price2013-10-02 17:40:00Sioux City, IA, US09,399.00
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2014 KTM 150 SX 150 Mx (2014)
2014 KTM 150 SX, Engine Type:1-cylinder 2-stroke engine, water-cooled, with reed intake and exhaust controlBore and Stroke:56MMx58.4MMIgnition:Contactless controlled fully electronic ignition with digital ignition adjustment, type KokusanFuel Type:GasolineFuel Capacity:1.98 Gal.2013-10-02 15:02:45Sioux City, IA, US00.00
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2014 KTM 65 SX 65 Mx (2014)
2014 KTM 65 SX, Engine Type:1-cylinder 2-stroke engine, water-cooled, with reed intake and exhaust controlBore and Stroke:45mmX40.8mmIgnition:KickstarterFuel Type:GasolineFuel Capacity:3.5 l (3.7 qt.)2013-09-30 10:25:13Sioux City, IA, US00.00
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2014 KTM 250 SX Dirt Bike (2014)
2014 KTM 250 SX, Engine Type:1-cylinder 2-stroke engine, water-cooled, with reed intake and exhaust controlBore and Stroke:66.4X72mmIgnition:Kick StarterFuel Type:Gasoline2013-09-30 09:03:38Sioux City, IA, US07,199.00
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2013 KTM 450XC-W Dirt Bike (2013)
2013 KTM 450XC-W, 2013 KTM 450XC-WLocation:Bak BMW Victory KTM KymcoAvailability:AvailableCondition:NewColor:OrangePrice:$9,4992013-09-30 08:31:06Sioux City, IA, US09,499.00
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2013 KTM 450SX-F Dirt Bike (2013)
2013 KTM 450SX-F, Engine Type:1-cylinder 4-stroke engineBore and Stroke:95 mm x 63.4 mmCompression Ratio:14:50Carburetion:Contactless controlled fully electronic ignition with digital ignition adjustmentIgnition:Electric starter Push ButtonFuel Type:GasolineFuel Capacity:1.98 gal.2013-09-30 04:11:32Sioux City, IA, US08,999.00
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2013 KTM 250XCF-W Dirt Bike (2013)
2013 KTM 250XCF-W, Location:Bak BMW Victory KTM KymcoAvailability:AvailableCondition:NewColor:OrangePrice:$8,4992013-09-30 01:31:08Sioux City, IA, US08,499.00
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2013 KTM 250XC 250 Dirt Bike (2013)
2013 Ktm 250XC, Location:Bak BMW Victory KTM KymcoAvailability:AvailableCondition:NewColor:OrangePrice:$8,199Engine Type:1-cylinder 2-stroke engineBore and Stroke:66.4 mm x 72 mmIgnition:Contactless controlled fully electronic ignition with digital ignition adjustmentFuel Type:GasolineFuel Capacity:3.04 gal.2013-09-29 22:01:43Sioux City, IA, US08,199.00
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2009 KTM 450 XC-F 450 Dirt Bike (2009)
2009 Ktm 450 XC-F, MSR handlebarsRenthal rear sprocket2013-09-29 21:21:18Sioux City, IA, US04,999.00
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2013 KTM 500EXC Dirt Bike (2013)
2013 KTM 500EXC, 2013 KTM 500EXCLocation:Bak BMW Victory KTM KymcoAvailability:AvailableCondition:NewColor:OrangePrice:$9,8992013-09-29 19:07:24Sioux City, IA, US00.00
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2007 KTM 300XC Dirt Bike (2007)
2007 KTM 300XC, Location:Bak BMW Victory KTM KymcoAvailability:AvailableCondition:Pre-OwnedColor:BlackMiles:999 MilesPrice:$3,9002013-09-29 16:18:24Sioux City, IA, US9993,900.00
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2014 KTM 50 SX Mx (2014)
2014 KTM 50 SX, Engine Type:1-cylinder 2-stroke engine, water-cooled, with reed intakeBore and Stroke:39.5mmX40mmIgnition:KickstarterFuel Type:GasolineFuel Capacity:2.3 l (2.4 qt.)2013-09-29 04:44:19Sioux City, IA, US00.00
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2011 KTM 250 SX-F 250 Mx (2011)
2011 Ktm 250 SX-F, 2011 KTM 250 SX-FLocation:Bak BMW Victory KTM KymcoAvailability:AvailableVIN:vbkmxh438bm140873Condition:NewColor:OrangePrice:$7,699Sale Price:$6,4992013-09-28 18:55:04Sioux City, IA, US05,999.00
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2014 KTM 350 SX-F 350 Dirt Bike (2014)
2014 KTM 350 SX-F, Engine Type:Single cylinder 4 stroke engine, water cooledBore and Stroke:88mmX57.5mmCarburetion:Fuel InjectionIgnition:ElectricFuel Type:GasolineFuel Capacity:1.98 gal2013-09-28 16:16:56Sioux City, IA, US08,749.00
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2009 KTM 450 XC-F 450 Dirt Bike (2009)
2009 Ktm 450 XC-F, 2009 KTM 450 XC-FLocation:Bak BMW Victory KTM KymcoAvailability:AvailableVIN:VBKMXM43X9M360146Condition:Pre-OwnedColor:BlackPrice:Call for PriceSale Price:$5,7902013-09-28 15:49:12Sioux City, IA, US04,999.00
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2013 KTM 990 SM T Sportbike (2013)
2013 KTM 990 SM T, Engine Type:2-cylinder 4-stroke Otto motor, 75A? V arrangement, water-cooledBore and Stroke:101 mm x 62.4 mmCarburetion:InjectionIgnition:Contactless controlled fully electronic ignition with digital ignition adjustment2013-09-27 23:23:40Sioux City, IA, US00.00
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2013 KTM 350 XCF-W Dirt Bike (2013)
2013 Ktm 350 XCF-W, Location:Bak BMW Victory KTM KymcoAvailability:AvailableVIN:VBKEXK402DM274904Condition:NewColor:ORANGEPrice:$9,199Salesperson:Bak SalesEmail Address:Email SalespersonPhone Number:(712) 258-79002013-09-27 19:46:10Sioux City, IA, US09,199.00
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2011 KTM 350 SX-F 350 Mx (2011)
2011 ktm 350 SX-F, Was used as a demo bike. Well taken care of and serviced.Fresh front tireOrange powder coated framePowder coated clutch cover and stater cover2013-09-05 06:45:52Sioux City, IA, US06,199.00
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2011 KTM 250 SX-F 250 Dirt Bike (2011)
2011 Ktm 250 SX-F, This was a demo bike that we have at the shop, lightly used and taken care of.2013-09-05 06:12:13Sioux City, IA, US156,199.00
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