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Showdown: 2022 Harley-Davidson Road Glide Limited Vs Indian Pursuit Limited Premium

Tue, 24 May 2022

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Who are we to question the motorcycles red-blooded Americans love most? Harley-Davidson sells more Street Glides than it does Road Glide Limiteds (which basically adds the frame-mounted fairing and trunk), but the song remains the same. Indian’s new Pursuit adds the same things to its Challenger – though its fairing was already a frame-mounted design. Who doesn’t want more storage? More closet space? Nobody. And that goes double for people who travel in pairs. In every couple, there’s at least one shoe hound.

Gold Wing and BMW fans will continue to look down their noses, but American-style grand touring has always been a slightly different animal – one that generally covers longer distances at slower speeds than you’ll find on the Continent. True, Honda built the Gold Wing primarily for the USA, but especially the latest version is almost too swoopy for its own good: It’s hard not to speed on the ’Wing, and they actually made it smaller and lighter. WTF? Maybe the bigger problem is that Honda’s never made the slightest effort to make the bike look American. For some people, that’s a problem. Really, Honda’s just smart enough not to try, though it did sell plenty of American-styled Shadow cruisers and things once upon a time.

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2022 Harley-Davidson Road Glide Limited vs. 2022 Indian Pursuit Limited Premium

You can’t go bigger than these two, so there’s no point in going home. With big frame-mounted fairings, top trunks, luxurious seating for two and all the appointments American V-Twin riders want, it’s a shame we only had four days and one state to shake them out. Still, we’re honored to carry on the fine old tradition of Harley versus Indian.

2022 Harley-Davidson Road Glide Limited

+ Highs

  • The world is your oyster
  • Tailor-made for people about 5’8´´
  • Amazingly agile for 929 pounds

– Sighs

  • 929 pounds
  • What, no electric windshield?
  • I actually don’t miss central locking, but for $33k we should have it anyway

2022 Indian Pursuit Limited Premium

+ Highs

  • 105 horses at 5600 rpm is 27 more than the other bike, 800 rpm higher
  • Considerably torquier too
  • Premium model’s electronic-adjust Fox shock makes the whole chassis muy classy

– Sighs

  • You need more than four days to figure out how to work everything
  • A tick behind the Harley in fit/finish
  • Even heavier, at 933 lbs…

Encroaching into Harley-Davidson territory, though, is exactly what Indian’s been up to ever since Polaris resurrected the name eight years ago, and so now it falls upon us to relive the Harley/Indian wars just as our ancestors did decades ago.

Freedom from Want

Both these bikes are the $33,000 ne plus ultra of their respective manufacturer (excluding your H-D CVOs), bringing to the table just about every touring amenity one could want. You can spend a few thousand more on Indian’s Roadmaster, but that bike’s powered by the older air-cooled Thunderstroke engine instead of the new liquid-cooled 108-inch V-Twin that Indian debuted in its Challenger a couple of years ago. That older 116-inch engine might be a better match-up to the Harley’s 114-inch Milwaukee Eight, but we wanted to ride the Pursuit because it’s new. And in fact, the different engine characteristics between the Indian and Harley really defines them. All else isn’t equal, but it’s close.

The 2022 Indian Pursuits Are Here

Your Indian PowerPlus V-Twin is oversquare, with 4.25-inch pistons swinging through a 3.8-in stroke, making it effectively one slice off a ’60s 427 Chevy. Or Ford.

Redline is 6500 rpm, and our unit made 105 horses at 5600 rpm. Meanwhile, the Harley’s bigger semi liquid-cooled undersquare engine (4.016 in. x 4.5 in.) makes its power lower in the rev band, but considerably less of it: just 78.4 hp at 4800 rpm.

Being of greater displacement, the Harley will make more torque, right? Wrong. The Indian is torquier, too, cranking out 116 pound-feet to the Harley’s 105. But you have to rev the Indian to 3500 rpm to get it, 600 rpm beyond the Harley’s 2900-rpm torque peak.

No big: The Indian’s geared a bit shorter, with a 3.017:1 final-drive ratio in 6th gear to the H-D’s 2.875:1 final-drive gearing. Set the Glide’s cruise control at 80-ish mph, and the tachometer says 3000 rpm.

Do the same on the Indian, and you’re looking at 3100-ish rpm. All you feel on either bike is a faint, far-away rumble. Rolling on the gas from 60 mph in top gear, the Indian winks at the Harley before steadily and progressively pulling away from it. The same thing happens from 80 mph, but faster.

Ryan Adams: Switching the Pursuit into Sport mode lets you experience all the PowerPlus engine has to offer with more immediate throttle response. Rolling on the throttle with these two bikes side-by-side illustrates the dyno chart perfectly and how differently you ride these machines. On the RG Limited, you find yourself short-shifting to keep in the bulk of that low-end torque, whereas if you were to try the same technique on the Pursuit, you’d be missing out on all that intoxicating mid-range power, which is where its mill really shines.

Transcontinental Holistic Missiles

Many discerning buyers of these two won’t care exactly how fast they get up to speed, only how well they swallow great expanses once they get there. We’re happy to report you can’t go wrong on either of these two. With mostly upright ergonomics atop deep-dish bucket seats, with more possible foot placements than Fred Astaire on rubber-isolated floorboards, which allow you to turn the other cheek – sometimes including the passenger floorboards – you really can ride all day.

Off the bat, even though its seat is a skosh lower (the specs say it’s full 2.4 inches lower), the Indian feels like it would fit taller, longer-armed people better. That’s mostly because its grips are an inch or two further forward than the Harley’s, which has 5’8” persons like Ryan Adams and me having to lean forward a tad.

The Harley’s mini ape-hanger brings the grips more rearward and looks like it would offer a greater degree of adjustment, too. The Harley’s whole rider triangle feels custom-made for people about my size in fact, and I have heard complaints from taller people who feel locked in place, since both bikes’ seats have big bolsters to rest the lower back against. (Why no built-in massagers?)

Being too small is probably better than being too big, because it barely matters when you can take a hand off the bar thanks to electronic cruise control. If you’re looking for reasons not to buy, maybe adaptive cc and blind-spot detection, like on the latest Ducatis and BMWs, will be along shortly? Otherwise, these two are packed with electronic aids you never really knew you needed. When either bike’s low-fuel light comes on, its TFT display asks if you’d like to find a gas station? If you click yes with your right thumb, it directs you to the nearest one (or whichever one you choose). That’s pretty convenient. On the other hand, on the Harley at least, if you click the restaurant/hotel/gas station icon on any upcoming exit, it only displays some of the restaurants there, leaving out some of our favorite spots. It’s great in other words, but not perfect (and it’s entirely possible I don’t fully know how to use it). The Indian performs the same basic tricks, using a slightly different user interface that’s not easy to learn immediately, but would become second nature if you owned the bike.

Wind in hair, bugs not in teeth

Both bikes’ ensconce their passengers behind biggish frame-mounted fairings and lowers to protect the legs, too.

Harley lowers are half full of radiators.
Indian’s lowers open up wide to flow more air when it’s hot.

About half of the lowers on the Harley are full of cleverly concealed small radiators to cool its cylinder heads, vented outwards, and below them are flaps you can open and close as needed to let the air flow through; the Indian has the same type of flaps.

Atmosphere-boring wise, the Indian’s biggest advantage is its electric-adjustable windshield. Your right thumb moves it up and down a few inches as needed. Unfortunately, even low was a bit too high for me (remember what we said about tall people fitting better), but that’s definitely an easily fixable thing via accessories catalog, aftermarket, or saw.

Meanwhile, the Harley’s windshield is fixed in place, but happens to be just about the right height for Adams and me. So, it’s fine as is; it’s just that we’ve been spoiled on other motorcycles by the ability to lower the shield for sporty riding, cruising at slower speeds on hot days, rainy nights, etc…. Both screens have relief cutouts on bottom that smooth airflow and let more air flow through as desired, and both are quiet and buffet-free.

Throw in 6-gallon gas tanks and near-40 mpg mileage (39 for the Harley, 37 for the Indian) for over 200-mile range – and you’re looking at what these motorcycles are all about: airing oneself out for hours on end. Leaving the OC at 7 am, the ride up I-5 on the Road Glide for breakfast at 9 in Frazier Park was almost like still being in bed, except for all the traffic through LA that kept waking me up.

Not so straight and narrow

What’s more remarkable is how well these two function as sport motorcycles. Every Harley-Davidson with “sport” in its name is limited by cornering clearance issues at some point, so it’s truly counterintuitive how hard the FL touring machines can be ridden in the corners.

Twenty or even ten years ago, these things would start grinding their floorboards comically early. Ever since the Road Glide Limited’s 2020 update, and maybe earlier, that’s just no longer the case, and the bike’s ability to lean deep into corners opens up a performance envelope you wouldn’t expect from a 929-pound motorcycle. Plus passenger and luggage.

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The Harley also got a six-axis Bosch IMU in 2020, to control its then-new Reflex Defensive Rider Systems (RDRS), giving it Cornering Enhanced Electronic Linked Braking (C-ELB), Cornering Enhanced Traction Control System (C-TCS), Drag-Torque Slip Control System (DSCS) and Cornering Enhanced Drag-Torque Slip Control System (C-DSCS), Vehicle Hold Control (VHC), and a Tire Pressure Monitoring System.

In layman’s terms, all that means you can flog the thing in the curves like a complete juvenile squid bastard (CJS-B), braking hard into apexes and rolling the gas on way early, confident that the new radial tires it also got in 2020, and the sheer roadholding weight of the thing (too big to fail!) will see you through. Those comfy, upright ergonomics and wide handlebars are your friends in the curves, too. Real motorcycle dynamics are at play.

For Fox Sake

And the Pursuit is in hot pursuit. The Limited with Premium package gets a single rear Fox shock with electronic preload adjustability. We had it set for rider only the first time we hit the curves, and felt like the fork (inverted, with 41mm sliders) was sending back vague intelligence from the front 19-inch Metzeler Cruisetec. Later, we punched loaded sidebags and trunk into the computer to get more rear preload, and the balance of the bike and front tire feel were much better.

Still, the Indian didn’t want to turn quite as confidently as the Harley. We blamed it on the taller front tire and longer wheelbase. Then, even later, we figured out you can also set rear preload for the rider’s weight (and the passenger’s). By the time Ryan Millennial figured it had been set at 145 the whole time, sadly, we were on our way home and done with all the tasty curves. But I betcha if we had cranked that up to about 180 lbs, the Harley would’ve had nothing on the Indian in the twisty stuff. (Imagine the fun you’ll have asking passengers their weight? We need it for safety…)

As things stood, in faster curves the Indian was right there: It was only in the tightest Highway 1 sections that the H-D seemed to have a cornering advantage via better front-end feel. Elsewhere, whatever the H-D gained in cornering speed, the Indian got back at the exits with its prodigious torque and horsepower. Not to be outdone, the Pursuit Limited is also packing a Bosch IMU to inform its Smart Lean Technology, dynamic traction control, and cornering ABS. (H-D and Indian both offer base models without those things if you only ride in Kansas and Nebraska.)

Ryan thinks: The Indian’s overall performance advantages in the engine and suspension departments kind of make you think you can write off the H-D when it comes to sportier riding. However, swapping back and forth on our way through the more sinuous stretches of PCH revealed just how competent the Road Glide Limited could be through a set of tight corners. Yes, the Pursuit gaps the RG L as it blasts out of corners with ferocity toward its 6,500 rpm redline, but the Indian can be reeled back in with the Harley thanks to the RG’s quick steering and ability to carry more corner speed – the extra degree of lean angle is appreciated.

In the end, the Harley feels a bit more flexy and vintage, in a good way. The Indian’s aluminum frame is stiffer, and therefore more demanding of its suspension. Either way, the big take-away is that if you’re an old sportbike guy, you won’t be the least bit embarrassed on either of these motorcycles when the road throws you a curve in public.

I fear we may not have been the best motorcycle ambassadors as we passed the tourists descending Highway 1 that day. Then again, being dive-bombed by 900-lb motorcycles might add to the Highway 1 experience if you’re from Germany or India.

Quite a Ride

Low-tech next to the Indian, the Harley’s right-side up bending-valve fork and linked brakes get the job done.
The Indian’s inverted fork gives it a better ride, but those Brembos don’t really stop it any harder than the H-D. Probably a pad thing…

It’s head-scratching how well the Harley works all the time, whether droning the slab or slaying the curves, with its old-fashioned twin shocks out back and their 3 inches of wheel travel. They’re also preload-adjustable, the old-fashioned way. But who’s got time for that?

Maybe we should’ve brought a heavy passenger and more stuff? The 49mm dual bending-valve fork up front does nice work, too, and the whole thing wafts you serenely along.

The Pursuit, though, is even waftier, atop its 5.1 inches of front travel and 4.5 inches out back; the occasional big hit you feel through the Harley’s pillowy seat often goes barely noticed on the Indian.

Our brains were tired by the time we left Parkfield, earthquake center of the world, then made it to our cheap motel in Paso Robles on night one. But our bodies were fine. Chili’s was the only place still open to eat at 9:30 – fine dining for a change!


By John Burns


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