Motorcycles in Moorpark, California

2004 Harley-Davidson FXSTB/FXSTBI Softail Night Train, 2004 FXSTB NIGHT TRAIN, LOW MILEAGE, THUNDERHEADER, HI-FLOW INTAKE, BEAUTIFUL LAVA RED SUNGLO PAINT & MUCH MORE! - The blacked-out theme and stunning new Lava Red Sunglo paint of the Night Train are enough to pop any set of eyeballs from their sockets. But you really have to ride this animal to appreciate it.

2007 Harley-Davidson FLHR Road King, BEAUTIFUL, ALL ORIGINAL, LOCAL TRADE IN, COME GET IT WHILE IT LASTS! - PACKED TO THE HILT WITH GOODS THAT INSPIRE ENDLESS HIGHWAYS. The first Harley motorcycle used a bicycle frame, had one cylinder and did the work of three horses.

2009 Harley-Davidson FLHTCU Ultra Classic Electra Glide, BLACK PEARL BEAUTY, INTERNALLY WIRED APE HANGERS, MUSTANG SEAT WITH RIDER BACKREST, PERFORMANCE EXHAUST & MUCH MORE!! - Experience the ultimate in long-haul luxury with top-of-the-line accessories, increased storage capacity and distinctive Harley style. LATELY, AT SIMI VALLEY HARLEY-DAVIDSON, WE HAVE BEEN SELLING PRE-OWNED MOTORCYCLES AT SUCH A RAPID PACE, IT IS HARD TO GET ALL THE BIKES ON OUR WEBSITE BEFORE THEY ARE PUT OUT ON OUR SALESFLOOR, AND QUITE OFTEN, MANY GET SOLD BEFORE WE HAVE AN OPPROTUNITY TO POST THEM ONLINE.

2003 Harley-Davidson FLSTF/FLSTFI Fat Boy, 100th ANNIVERSARY FLSTF FATBOY - 100th Anniversary FLSTF/FLSTFI Fat Boy Like all Softail models, the Fat Boy is powered by a counter-balanced Twin Cam 88B engine. It cranks out big, juicy torque and comes with carb or sophisticated EFI. What you dont see is a hidden rear suspension that provides classic looks and a great ride.

Up for sale 2010 R1 LE, has had break in service, few hundred miles left on tires. Like new minus a trailer loading mishap causing the small scratch and dent. let me know if you'd like to see additional pictures or have any questions.

2012 Harley-Davidson FXDC Dyna Super Glide Custom, The 2012 Harley-Davidson Dyna Super Glide Custom FXDC is a bike with the power you need and all the Harley chrome you want. The Super Glide Custom motorcycle holds true to its name with unique, custom styling features from tire to tire. The tank-mounted gauges engulfed in chrome, authentic leather fuel tank panel, unique battery box cover, solid stainless steel pullback handlebar, and fuel tank medallion that oozes iconic Harley-Davidson attitude all make this bike one-of-a-kind.

2003 Harley-Davidson FLHRCI Road King Classic, 100th ANNIVERSARY ROAD KING CLASSIC, INTERNALLY WIRED APE HANGERS, LOTS OF BLACK POWDERCOATING, 2 INTO 1 EXHAUST, LOTS MORE! - 100th Anniversary FLHRCI Road King Classic This is the style that roamed the American highways of a half century ago. Wide whitewalls around laced wheels.

2004 Harley-Davidson FXDWG/FXDWGI Dyna Wide Glide, LAKERS FAN? THIS IS THE BIKE FOR YOU! - If ever a set of handlebars could make a statement, it’s right here.

2012 HONDA SHADOW PHANTOM, 750CC CRUISER. DENIM PAINT. LOW MILES.SUPER GAS MILAGE!!!

2008 Harley-Davidson FXDC Dyna Super Glide Custom, 2008 FXDC DYNA SUPER GLIDE CUSTOM - THE NAME SCRAWLED ACROSS THE CHROME BATTERY COVER IS THE ONE THAT STARTED THE FACTORY CUSTOM MOVEMENT. Super Glide. Lean.

2009 APRILLA SHIVER 750, ITALIAN EXOTIC!! BEAUTIFUL CONDITION!!MUST SEE!!!

2008 Harley-Davidson FXD Dyna Super Glide, 2008 FXD DYNA SUPER GLIDE - LIKE A GUITAR, THREE CHORDS, AND THE TRUTH, THE SUPER GLIDE IS A BOLD STATEMENT WITH NOTHING TO GET IN THE WAY. Whether you see it as a pure reason to ride or a platform for building your own custom vision, you can’t help but appreciate the way this machine gets you right to the bare essence of what riding a Harley-Davidson motorcycle is all about. A silver Twin Cam 96 V-twin engine, rubber-mounted in the rugged Dyna frame.

BRAND NEW IN STOCK NOW!!

2009 Harley-Davidson FXD Dyna Super Glide, ANOTHER SWEET DYNA SUPERGLIDE, BLANK CANVAS WAITING FOR YOUR PERSONAL TOUCH! - As a pure riding machine or a blank canvas for your custom vision, this is the essence of what riding a Harley motorcycle is all about. LATELY, AT SIMI VALLEY HARLEY-DAVIDSON, WE HAVE BEEN SELLING PRE-OWNED MOTORCYCLES AT SUCH A RAPID PACE, IT IS HARD TO GET ALL THE BIKES ON OUR WEBSITE BEFORE THEY ARE PUT OUT ON OUR SALESFLOOR, AND QUITE OFTEN, MANY GET SOLD BEFORE WE HAVE AN OPPROTUNITY TO POST THEM ONLINE.

2005 Harley-Davidson FLHTC/FLHTCI Electra Glide Classic, 2005 ELECTRA GLIDE CLASSIC, MOSTLY ALL ORIGINAL, VERY NICE TOURING MACHINE - The day we built this one, the world officially became a better place. The Electra Glide Classic was designed on the premise that the long haul shouldn’t have to feel like one. We started with pure Harley-Davidson styling, then added on all the necessities for putting on big miles.

GREAT CONDITION. AWESOME COMMUTER!!GREAT ON GAS!!

2005 Harley-Davidson FLHRCI Road King Classic, THIS ROAD KING IS DRIPPING IN CHROME, AND NOTHING SCREAM AMERICAN MORE THAN GLEAMING CHROME AND LOAD PIPES! - Step out to the garage and there it is, resting beneath the flickering light. The Road King Classic.

2008 Harley-Davidson FLHTCU Ultra Classic Electra Glide, 2008 ULTRA CLASSIC ELECTRA GLIDE - ONLY 105 YEARS OF HARLEY-DAVIDSON COULD TAKE IT THIS FAR. The top of the line, all wrapped up in stunning new Anniversary style. Like every Touring model, the Ultra Classic gets the most out of a new longer-ranging six-gallon tank, with added miles of comfort in the seat plus new Brembo brakes and our optional anti-lock (ABS) technology.

2009 Harley-Davidson FLTR Road Glide, BLACK PEARL 09 ROAD GLIDE, INTERNALLY WIRED APES, CRUISE, BREMBO BRAKES, REDESIGNED TOURING FRAME, PYTHON MUFFLERS & MORE!! - While the sleek custom style and aerodynamic fairing are easy on the eyes, the Harman / Kardon Advanced Audio System is music to your ears. LATELY, AT SIMI VALLEY HARLEY-DAVIDSON, WE HAVE BEEN SELLING PRE-OWNED MOTORCYCLES AT SUCH A RAPID PACE, IT IS HARD TO GET ALL THE BIKES ON OUR WEBSITE BEFORE THEY ARE PUT OUT ON OUR SALESFLOOR, AND QUITE OFTEN, MANY GET SOLD BEFORE WE HAVE AN OPPROTUNITY TO POST THEM ONLINE.

2012 Harley-Davidson FLTRX Road Glide Custom, 2012 ROAD GLIDE CUSTOM, BLACK DENIM, CRUISE CONTROL, RINEHART EXHAUST, ONE OWNER, LOCAL TRADE IN, YOUR SEARCH IS OVER! - The 2012 Harley-Davidson Road Glide Custom FLTRX is an ideal bike for touring in style with its many features, including its shark nose frame mounted Harley fairing and large capacity Harley gas tank. New for 2012, the Harley Road Glide Custom features a powerful, new, larger air-cooled Twin Cam 103 Harley engine with 6-speed cruise drive tranmission, providing more performance power for passing, hill-climbing, and riding with passenger and cargo.

2007 Harley-Davidson VRSCAW V-Rod, 2007 VRSCAW V-ROD - LONG AND LOW. SLEEK AND FAST. CLEAN AND MEAN.

2006 Harley-Davidson FLSTC/FLSTCI Heritage Softail Classic, 2006 FLSTC HERITAGE SOFTAIL CLASSIC - In the saddle of a Harley-Davidson Softail, no road is ever lonely. Sunlight breaks through treetops to dance on chromed steel. The wind offers its constant stream of praise.

2010 Harley-Davidson FLHX Street Glide, 2010 FLHX STREET GLIDE - With all-new style and long distance comfort, this stripped-down bike is made to eat miles. LATELY, AT SIMI VALLEY HARLEY-DAVIDSON, WE HAVE BEEN SELLING PRE-OWNED MOTORCYCLES AT SUCH A RAPID PACE, IT IS HARD TO GET ALL THE BIKES ON OUR WEBSITE BEFORE THEY ARE PUT OUT ON OUR SALESFLOOR, AND QUITE OFTEN, MANY GET SOLD BEFORE WE HAVE AN OPPROTUNITY TO POST THEM ONLINE. IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A PARTICULAR MODEL THAT YOU DONT SEE ON OUR WEBSITE, PLEASE CALL ONE OF OUR HARLEY-DAVIDSON SALES PROFESSIONALS AND ASK US.

2011 KAWASAKI NINJA 650R 650R, NICE MIDSIZE SPORTBIKE.SUPER GAS MILAGE.GREAT FOR COMMUTING. START RIDING TODAY!

REAL CLEAN. LOW MILES.INCLUDES SADDLEBAGS AND WINDSCREEN! GREAT ON GAS!!

BRAND NEW! RARE FIND!! THIS ONE WON'T LAST!!!

2012 HUSQVARNA TXC 310, NEW NEVER REGISTERED.LAST ONE! MSRP WAS $7889. SAVE HUGE!

2011 Harley-Davidson FLHTCU Ultra Classic Electra Glide, 2011 ALL ORIGINAL ULTRA CLASSIC ELECTRA GLIDE - The 2011 Harley-Davidson Touring Ultra Classic Electra Glide FLHTCU provides touring style with many upgrades, including a Harley motorcycle sidecar. The Harley Ultra Classic Electra Glide offers two types of motorcycles wheels. The optional motorcycle wheels offered on the Ultra Classic Electra Glide can give this bike a different look so be sure to check them out.

2007 Harley-Davidson FLSTN Softail Deluxe, BEAUTIFUL, LADY OWNED BLACK PEARL BEAUTY, ROAD KING CUSTOM TAN LEATHER BAGS, 26K NICELY DRIVEN MILES, THIS BABY IS CALLIN YOU! - FROM WIDE WHITEWALL TO WIDE WHITEWALL, EVERY DETAIL IS GRAND SCALE. Theres something to be said for subtlety.

2011 Harley-Davidson FLHR Road King, 2011 ROAD KING, VIVID BLACK, ALL ORIGINAL, VERY CLEAN - The 2011 Harley-Davidson Touring Road King FLHR is powered with a Twin Cam 96 engine styled to perfection with the performance you need for Harley touring. The Road King FLHR has a classic Hiawatha headlamp that is a defining feature of this bike. Big and commanding, the Harley Road King headlamp hearkens back to the Big Twins of the 60s.

2010 Harley-Davidson FLHTCU Ultra Classic Electra Glide, BEAUTIFUL, LOW MILEAGE, 2010 ULTRA CLASSIC ELECTRA GLIDE - Long-haul comfort, convenience and storage capacity wrapped in unmistakable style. LATELY, AT SIMI VALLEY HARLEY-DAVIDSON, WE HAVE BEEN SELLING PRE-OWNED MOTORCYCLES AT SUCH A RAPID PACE, IT IS HARD TO GET ALL THE BIKES ON OUR WEBSITE BEFORE THEY ARE PUT OUT ON OUR SALESFLOOR, AND QUITE OFTEN, MANY GET SOLD BEFORE WE HAVE AN OPPROTUNITY TO POST THEM ONLINE. IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A PARTICULAR MODEL THAT YOU DONT SEE ON OUR WEBSITE, PLEASE CALL ONE OF OUR HARLEY-DAVIDSON SALES PROFESSIONALS AND ASK US.

BRAND NEW. LAST ONE!!

2003 Harley-Davidson FXDL Dyna Low Rider, 2003 ANNIVERSARY FXDL DYNA LOW RIDER, NICE UPGRADES, VERY CLEAN, LOW MILEAGE! - 100th Anniversary FXDL Dyna Low Rider For a quarter century now, the Low Rider has been stalking the streets. And if all those years prove anything, its that rightness doesnt go out of style.

2000 Harley-Davidson FLSTF Fat Boy, BEAUTIFUL FLAMED OUT ORANGE FATBOY WITH A TON OF TASTEFUL ACCESSORIES! - The Fat Boy enters its ninth year, and time has not worn away a bit of the bike’s impact. This is the kind of style that could only be centered on a Harley-Davidson V-Twin, in this case the Twin Cam 88B.

2003 Harley-Davidson FLSTC/FLSTCI Heritage Softail Classic, 100th ANNIVERSARY FLSTC HERITAGE SOFTAIL CLASSIC! EXTREMELY LOW MILEAGE! - 100th Anniversary FLSTC/FLSTCI Heritage Softail Classic Coming at you head on, you might think a vintage Hydra-Glide is rolling your way.

2006 Harley-Davidson XL 883R Sportster, THIS IS THE RARE SPORTY YOUVE BEEN LOOKING FOR TO EITHER CRUISE THE CANYONS OR TURN INTO A HOTROD FIRE-BREATHIN GSXR KILLER - For decades, fun could best be defined as a potent engine sitting dead center in a strong, agile frame with nothing but miles of winding asphalt ahead. As long as we keep building and refining the Sportster, that definition will stay true. If you’ve never swung a leg over, you should.

2009 YAMAHA V-STAR 1100, REAL CLEAN.all original. saddlebags. shaft drive.

2011 Harley-Davidson FLHTK Electra Glide Ultra Limited, 2011 FLHTK ULTRA CLASSIC LIMITED - The 2011 Harley-Davidson Touring Electra Glide Ultra Limited FLHTK is a premium-featured touring bike full of authentic Harley-Davidson grand American touring style. Some of the bikes premium features include: ABS brakes, heated hand grips, titanium face gauges, Tour-Pak inserts, a premium Tour-Pak luggage rack, 28-spoke contrast chrome wheels, and special Ultra Limited identifier medallions. Also found on the Harley Electra Glide Ultra touring bike is a six-gallon fuel tank so you have to stop less for fuel.

2001 Harley-Davidson FLHTCUI Ultra Classic Electra Glide, MOSTLY ALL ORIGINAL 2001 ULTRA CLASSIC ELECTRA GLIDE - The Ultra Classic Electra Glide is our way of taking everything good about motorcycle travel, and dialing it up to the max. Start with sound. You get a 40-watt-per-channel AM/FM/cassette with weather band, rear speakers, separate passenger controls and dual antenna.

2002 Harley-Davidson FLSTC/FLSTCI Heritage Softail Classic, 2002 HERITAGE SOFTAIL CLASSIC, THIS BIKE DOESNT SHOW, PRESTINE CONDITION! - Cutting edge custom styling committed to Harley-Davidsons heritage. A smooth running twin-cam 88B engine set in a classic frame.

2008 Harley-Davidson XL 1200C Sportster 1200 Custom, 2008 XL1200C SPORTSTER CUSTOM - WRAP YOUR FISTS AROUND THE DRAG-STYLE HANDLEBAR AND HANG ON TO A MOTORCYCLE THAT DOESN’T KNOW THE MEANING OF ENOUGH. For 2008 you have the option of the full, serialized Anniversary treatment shown here. But even before the 105th came along, the 1200 Custom had earned its place in history.

IN STOCK NOW!!!

2012 HUSQVARNA Te310 310, MSRP WAS $8199.We offer industry leading finance programs that routinely get credit scores as low as 601 financed for 6.99% or LESS! Don't miss this opportunity to get one of the best dual sport bikes on the market for well below MSRP plus awesome financing.

2013 HUSABERG FE250, Because less sometimes really does mean more. The HUSABERG FE 250 is a lightweight four-stroke model, excelling with direct, spontaneous power development and outstanding traction. Sandy ground?

2009 Harley-Davidson FLHX Street Glide, 2009 FLHX STREET GLIDE, ONE OF A KIND, INTERNALLY WIRED APE HANGERS, UPGRADED AUDIO, READY FOR SOME MILES!! - With a slammed suspension and stripped front fender, its the perfect combination of street custom style and long-haul comfort. LATELY, AT SIMI VALLEY HARLEY-DAVIDSON, WE HAVE BEEN SELLING PRE-OWNED MOTORCYCLES AT SUCH A RAPID PACE, IT IS HARD TO GET ALL THE BIKES ON OUR WEBSITE BEFORE THEY ARE PUT OUT ON OUR SALESFLOOR, AND QUITE OFTEN, MANY GET SOLD BEFORE WE HAVE AN OPPROTUNITY TO POST THEM ONLINE.

2009 Harley-Davidson FLSTSB Softail Cross Bones, THIS IS ONE BAD LITTLE SPRINGER, ALL BLACKED OUT, YOU MISS OUT ON THE LAST ONE, DONT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE TWICE! - Newly styled like a post-war era bobber with a Springer front-end, ape-hanger handlebars and chopped front fender, you might be wondering what year it is. LATELY, AT SIMI VALLEY HARLEY-DAVIDSON, WE HAVE BEEN SELLING PRE-OWNED MOTORCYCLES AT SUCH A RAPID PACE, IT IS HARD TO GET ALL THE BIKES ON OUR WEBSITE BEFORE THEY ARE PUT OUT ON OUR SALESFLOOR, AND QUITE OFTEN, MANY GET SOLD BEFORE WE HAVE AN OPPROTUNITY TO POST THEM ONLINE.

2009 Harley-Davidson FXDB Dyna Street Bob, 2009 FXDB DYNA STREET BOB - Back to its roots and stripped down to the essentials, this tough custom oozes cool with a no-holds-barred attitude and performance to match. LATELY, AT SIMI VALLEY HARLEY-DAVIDSON, WE HAVE BEEN SELLING PRE-OWNED MOTORCYCLES AT SUCH A RAPID PACE, IT IS HARD TO GET ALL THE BIKES ON OUR WEBSITE BEFORE THEY ARE PUT OUT ON OUR SALESFLOOR, AND QUITE OFTEN, MANY GET SOLD BEFORE WE HAVE AN OPPROTUNITY TO POST THEM ONLINE. IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A PARTICULAR MODEL THAT YOU DONT SEE ON OUR WEBSITE, PLEASE CALL ONE OF OUR HARLEY-DAVIDSON SALES PROFESSIONALS AND ASK US.

2009 Harley-Davidson FLTRSE3 CVO Road Glide, THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST RARE, SOUGHT-AFTER HARLEY-DAVIDSONS EVER PRODUCED. THERE ARE VERY FEW LEFT, THIS ONE CAN BE YOURS. - Full capacity for the open highway with an unabashed thirst for twisty back roads, the CVO Road Glide model keeps the horizon in focus, knowing where it came from.

2008 Harley-Davidson FLSTC Heritage Softail Classic, 2008 HERITAGE SOFTAIL CLASSIC - YOU DON’T JUST OWN THE ROAD IN THE SADDLE OF A SOFTAIL MOTORCYCLE. You own a part of motorcycle history. This one takes you back to the glory days when riders weren’t shy about expressing their feelings in the form of paint, tooled leather and big expanses of chrome.

2013 HUSQVARNA TR 650 Strada, IN STOCK NOW!!!Meet Americas new favorite bike. 58 horsepower 650cc Rotax single that will torque you out of the turns like no other bike can. Incredible MPG that will save you big bucks at the pump!!Husqvarna is proud to introduce the all-new Dual-Purpose platform to the 2013 line of motorcycles.

2010 Harley-Davidson FLHTK Electra Glide Ultra Limited, 2010 FLHTK ULTRA LIMITED, VENTILATOR HI-FLOW, ECM REMAP, ONE OWNER LOCAL TRADE IN, BEAUTIFUL 2 TONE PAINT! - This limited model comes fully-loaded to ride a step above the rest on all the miles ahead. LATELY, AT SIMI VALLEY HARLEY-DAVIDSON, WE HAVE BEEN SELLING PRE-OWNED MOTORCYCLES AT SUCH A RAPID PACE, IT IS HARD TO GET ALL THE BIKES ON OUR WEBSITE BEFORE THEY ARE PUT OUT ON OUR SALESFLOOR, AND QUITE OFTEN, MANY GET SOLD BEFORE WE HAVE AN OPPROTUNITY TO POST THEM ONLINE.

2011 Harley-Davidson XL1200C Sportster 1200 Custom, BEAUTIFUL ONE OWNER, LOCAL TRADE IN, TASTEFULLY UPGRADED WITH ALL THE RIGHTS TOUCHES. MUST SEE THIS 1200C YOURSELF TO APPRECIATE - The 2011 Harley-Davidson Sportster 1200 Custom XL1200C is a true Harley Sportster custom motorcycle, just a little fatter and a little more custom than the other Sportsters. The fat front tire wrapped around a 16-inch wheel gives it a cool custom look and offers nimble handling.

2001 Harley-Davidson Low Rider , Great lowrider, forward controls, V&H pipe plus stock exhaust, all paper work since day one, service manual, custom wheels, wind vest shield, lots of chrome, runs perfect. $8,700.00 8059901449

2011 Harley-Davidson XL883L Sportster 883 SuperLow, DONT MISS YOUR CHANCE TO GET ON A LATE MODEL HARLEY FOR UNDER $7,000!! - The brand NEW 2011 Harley-Davidson Sportster SuperLow XL883L has all the new motorcycle features you want for easy handling. This easy-to-ride motorcycle offered at an affordable price makes this all new motorcycle one to try.

2009 Harley-Davidson XL 1200L Sportster 1200 Low, 2009 XL1200L, SUPER LOW MILEAGE, CLEAN, NICE EXTRAS! - While the low suspension keeps you close to the pavement, the power and performance take you to all new heights. LATELY, AT SIMI VALLEY HARLEY-DAVIDSON, WE HAVE BEEN SELLING PRE-OWNED MOTORCYCLES AT SUCH A RAPID PACE, IT IS HARD TO GET ALL THE BIKES ON OUR WEBSITE BEFORE THEY ARE PUT OUT ON OUR SALESFLOOR, AND QUITE OFTEN, MANY GET SOLD BEFORE WE HAVE AN OPPROTUNITY TO POST THEM ONLINE.

GREAT CONDITION!! LOW MILES!! GREAT ALL AROUND MOTORCYCLE!!!

2005 Harley-Davidson FLHTCUI Ultra Classic Electra Glide, 2005 ULTRA CLASSIC, BEAUTIFUL CONDITION, LOCAL TRADE IN, DONT MISS THIS BEAUTIFUL COLOR COMBINATION! - Throw a leg over an Ultra Classic Electra Glide touring bike and it’s like having one boot in the east, one in the west, and you are ruler of all lands in between. We start with a comfort-stitched saddle and passenger backrest, should you choose not to rule alone.

2011 Harley-Davidson FXDC Dyna Super Glide Custom, 2011 FXDC DYNA SUPERGLIDE CUSTOM - The 2011 Harley-Davidson Dyna Super Glide Custom FXDC is a bike with the power you need and all the Harley chrome you want. The Super Glide Custom motorcycle holds true to its name with unique, custom styling features from tire to tire. The tank-mounted gauges engulfed in chrome, authentic leather fuel tank panel, unique battery box cover, solid stainless steel pullback handlebar, and fuel tank medallion that oozes iconic Harley-Davidson attitude all make this bike one-of-a-kind.

2013 HUSABERG TE250, It doesn't always need to be a four-stroke. The TE 250 is an established force in the E2 class, the most hotly contested class in enduro sport. And because good is by no means good enough at HUSABERG, the bike also offers more direct power development, intensified performance and a completely new chassis.

2007 Harley-Davidson FXD Dyna Super Glide, 2007 FXD DYNA SUPER GLIDE - SIMPLE, RAW-BONED STYLE IN A NIMBLE TOSS-ME-A-LONG-SERPENTINE-STRETCH-OF-ASPHALT FRAME. Wanted: People possessing a maniacal devotion to two-fist navigation. We built our most generously priced Big Twin to be ridden long and often.